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Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Joseph Siffred Duplessis - Christoph Willibald Gluck - Google Art Project.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on July 2, 2018. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2018-07-02. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Christoph Willibald Gluck
Christoph Willibald Gluck (1714–1787) was a composer of Italian and French opera in the early classical period. Rising to prominence at the Habsburg court in Vienna, he challenged the dominant Metastasian opera seria by introducing more drama and cutting the da capo aria with a series of works in the 1760s, among them Orfeo ed Euridice and Alceste. After moving to Paris in 1773, he fused the Italian and French traditions in eight operas. Of these, Iphigénie en Tauride is generally acknowledged as his finest work.Painting: Joseph Siffred Duplessis

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I removed the tag put there by someone who is an expert on birthdays. Please stick to your business instead of panicking, just one day before 2 July. Besides I don't believe in this date. It possible to proof he was baptized on the 4th, but there is no document available that shows he was born on the 2nd. Moreover, we don't need headmasters, we need people that add referenced content. It is a cheap act. Since someone started this article, I assume 16 years ago, there were only 15 references, one per year. I added 35 in two months time. The subject operatic reform is very difficult, even scholars are still busy to find out what happened as a lot of sources burnt. Besides, there are hundreds/thousands/ten thousand articles with too little references on the English Wikipedia. They look like the authors have been showing their skill in typewriting (to keep it friendly).Taksen (talk) 21:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)Taksen (talk) 22:28, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your efforts on improving this article. However, just because other articles are worse doesn't mean that this one should get a free pass. There is no rule/guideline that says we have to fix the low-quality articles before we do the medium-quality ones. Thanks also for clarifying about his birth date being unknown. Accordingly, I have removed his listing from July 2#Births. I will likely be checking in on this article again in November near his death anniversary. If the citations for the section that I tagged have improved since then, the article will be considered for inclusion on the Main Page as part of WP:Selected anniversaries/November 15. If not, well c'est la vie. howcheng {chat} 22:24, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User:Howcheng: Gluck's birthdate of 2 July is widely accepted, including by most of his German biographers, but not by the amateur scholars Robl and Taksen, and the addition of the tag was warranted. The relevance of the five references Taksen copied over wholesale from Melchior Grimm is not clear here, and three of them he couldn't even be bothered to complete. Robert.Allen (talk) 01:13, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For everybody born in Europe before 1810 there is no birthday known, only a baptism record in churches was kept, unless someone (the parents) kept a diary or wrote it down somewhere. People did not "exist" before they were baptized. So 4 July is more reliable than 2 July.Taksen (talk) 22:48, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You've been here long enough, so you know that our standard is "Verifiability, not truth". NDB says July 2, so that counts as verifiable to me. howcheng {chat} 01:40, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Obstinate mistakes whose correction is (allegedly) being revised by bots

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The name of the Viennese street where Gluck lived and died is Wiedner Hauptstraße. There is no "Wiedener" Hauptstraße. Gluck's exhumation on 29 September 1890 was widely reported in countless newspapers, for instance in the Neue Freie Presse of this day. Why brainless Wikipedia bots are fighting against an increase of documented information in articles, is beyond me.--Suessmayr (talk) 13:47, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Technical and Professional Editing

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This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 13 January 2025 and 6 May 2025. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Khud24 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Dr.ozkul (talk) 20:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Editing Plan

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Howdy, I will be editing this article for for a Technical Editing class at Texas A&M University. Below are a few specific edits I will be making over the last weeks of February and the first weeks of March. I will be creating the changes with a sandbox before I submit them into the article.

  • Copyediting throughout the entire document
  • Fix the broken link(s) within the article such as "Carnival at Milan"
  • I want to see about moving or rearranging sections to find a better place for the section of Gluck's native language.
  • Add and rearrange subheadings within the article such as creating separate subheadings to his ancestry and his early life.

I hope these edits will give the article new life and upgrade its status on Wikipedia. Click here [1] to see the sandbox I am using to edit the article. Khud24 (talk) 19:23, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]